I wouldn't reccomend bunker method but idk about the safety of that. i have not tested other Online Services Functions, but Bunker Settings is all i care about. If I still can't find the answer, then I post a question. kiddion • 21 days ago. A subreddit based around the Modest Mod Menu (UNOFFICIAL) Advertisement Coins. In other words, you cannot change the value at this time because you must first begin the sale mission. Bunker method: -buy stock -get out of laptop and chair -disable the stock timer -go back into the laptop and click sell -once you’re outside wait for 10-15 seconds -change the amount to whatever you want I would go 2. no banned for kiddions Reply reply CaregiverNice • I use bunker method to farm money, and rig slot of casino now they're 2 times per day, and i didnt get banned Reply reply rashik_raven. Whenever I use the bunker method it says transaction failed . (The mod menu is actually bugged, so be careful with this amount) When the mission. Night Club - 2 items can be triggered to get you 1 million, and depending on the lockups you have, you can get 100k - 600k. Steps: Buy full bar of supplies. Got banned for a month and now that I'm unbanned,Idk how to do it to avoid a ban. General rule of thumb: don't show openly to other players that you are modding. If you have a lot of product stored in. I know that will happen to you when you put a price above 2. . Hey Guys, I've seen a lot of guys asking about the Money making methods with Kiddions, so here's a detailed one. Basically you go to sell the stock in your bunker and use the bunker part of the online services to set it to 1. . Bunker method is safer but still kinda risky. A subreddit based around the Modest Mod Menu (UNOFFICIAL) Advertisement Coins. Godmode, ghost org and etc. 5 mil as it will give a warning. I have been using the menu over a year now with about 6 other friends we all get into a lobby and the fist thing we do is rig…How is that possible when kiddions is still being updated? Reply reply. Seems like none of the stuff you used is known to be detected which makes diagnosis hard. The following are some potential fixes: 1) Consider leaving the Numlock on since doing so will make it easier to understand commands and toggle options since most of the mod's commands and toggle options include numbers and special keys. 1. 5 million I guess. 4) Go to Kiddion's menu, Online services, Bunker. . So bunker method is much safer as you are selling, which looks more legit. And the most important tip: spawn vehicles. The option should be stated, but they must've not coded. Has anyone else been having trouble using the Killians bunker method lately? I’ve tried it a few times and I’ve gotten several problems including the number that I try to sell the bunker for being completely off or it’s just not working at all for some reason. A subreddit based around the Modest Mod Menu (UNOFFICIAL). Do not do casino rig by any means necessary. 1m and teleport to signal jammers Useful info: Done in a solo lobby. I did about 100 million, and never got caught, but it's a matter of luck. But if you're looking for ways to earn cash quick, you've got the bunker method, the casino method and the nightclub warehouse method. At least for a few weeks after the ban was lifted, I would just use the safe Kiddions options. Bunker method Hi everyone. 000 = 2. Therefore, only make the money you need to buy the thing you have in mind, don't hoard money. tuners rp booster to 1000 and afk in car meet area 5. Not sure but i think the bunker method is more safe. Kiddion he posted a thousand times to change the title to be detected, so yes, the title if so will be changed. 25 mil and sell, after that I do a cooldown of 15 minutes on my phone and sell again after the cooldown. Activate Online Services -> Bunker -> Remove Bunker Supply Delay Buy supplies in the bunker. Used bunker method and got ~20mil on 2 days, bought the chumash bunker and maxed it out, lncreased my rp to 65 using this guide. It does works but on some places of map you’ll just drown; especially on the roads which are near a water body. menu sale / bunker sale * 2. . After that on the research tab on the bunker laptop the thermal scope is unlocked. mod menu a post a couple days ago about the bunker method being detected and was wondering if it still is? This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A pop90867 • Additional comment actions. With GTA 6 finally announced, I’d like to thank Kiddion for all he’s done to make 5 more tolerable, and here’s to the future. 44 votes, 20 comments. Hello. piediepewpew. Quick question about the bunker method. kiddions bunker method solution (worked for me at least) Nvthvn#0497 created a equation to fix this: bunker sale = value of selling the bunker product in los santos. Reply AssistanceCreepy9592. Then u just have like 300 or smth ping and u. You don't need 100 million. How many times do you do the bunker method? Not much of a question but more of a discussion per se. r/Kiddions. sell crate, edit sale value for 1 crate to $5. 3 times the casino and two times the bunker, this last one with 2. On the original forum post for kiddions, if you scroll down towards the bottom, you'll see a v8. View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit. Kiddions makes this so easy because you can teleport around the island for the scope, and then teleport around for the final. The casino rig is fine, short term. 5M. The only safe amount is Zero. Kiddions > Online Services > Bunker Settings > Set Bunker Delivery Set the slider anywhere below 2. 5M or below that if you want to run more deliveries but keep the total earnings below 10M to be safe :) Hiz_5. I still feel the bunker method is safe. Options used: 1. Go stealth and find the keys in one of the guards. still working. Once again, your safest bet will always be the bunker quick sell, makes about 10 mil in 10 min. As far as I know Kiddions bunker method is the safest providing you dont go over 2. That's what I do first. hm i'll probably just wait until kiddions is updated so i can use the bunker methods. After starting the sell mission, you get into services - bunker delivery and you change the value to, by example, 2. Top. Kiddions menu has restored the fun in gta online for me. hackgod007 is offline. 1)CASINO METHOD. granted i was griefing players with the other menus but the point stands that kiddions is the best and safest menu out there. Bunker method is safer but still kinda risky. This was right before the update (I was stocking up on cash). Remember to run GTA in windowed mode rather than full screen if you want to be able to see the menu while you're playing. Unknownsheats. Let's say this as an example. do it in order and you will get 2. EDIT: I can't respond to everyone…The process was like this: Enter bunker Produce 3 or 4 times through the trainer Sell to los santos Set the money earned to something between 1. Download Kiddions Modest Menu Latest Version Advertisements. I just don’t use slots anymore and instead use bunker method for my earnings and occasionally do minimum job payout to increase job earnings. A script that can change your own outfit, like for example getting cop outfit or a noose outfit would be nice. ago. Download Kiddions Modest Menu Latest Version Advertisements. this methods an all day money grind method. Sell stock. I do around 10M. R* can't directly detect it. The bunker method is completely safe. I recommend you. 4 million. 3. R1Titan • 1 yr. Run a bunker sale and wait for Agent 14 to call you. After that, Online Services > Bunker Settings is not working. Pretty easy to use, you open online services, select bunker, and from there you are going to need supplies so you quickly go and get them. 3 > Use the Navigation Keys to go to the Set Bunker Delivery option: Step 1: Go to your bunker and buy max supplies, then enable “Remove Bunker Supply Delay” in the mod menu. There is the bunker method that fills your bunker supply and you can then sell them. Press Numpad5 (kill all cars, failing the mission) Wait a couple of seconds (about 10 seconds) Press "PageUp" (Quick restart) Wait about 50 seconds for the mission to load. My betting is 69m and my job earnings 78m. raptorr8. So I can tell it's pretty safe. No more than that. I did the method 150 times on my new account still nothing since the new version maybe the menu isn't detectable yet still wouldn't recommend to abuse. Some other people will recommend the bunker method. . If anything happens, I let you know. I cannot guarantee that this method has not been detected, but it is known to be the only safe. I've already been banned once and my account was rest. I use kiddions like 2 or 3 years ago, mostly used the casino and bunker method, i got like 50mill in a single day and spend it in less. Im not gonna grind hard again. I love the Kiddions menu. ) or RP (Level) modding. Be careful about how quickly you acquire money, especially if your account only has a few hours on it. KingKongGuy21. At the moment nothing has occurred but I. and mc business and bunker method which are both like same. If you were just doing 2m/day with the bunker you’re probably good. The method is safe, the way how you use the method will define everything, everytime you sell for over 2 millions, you are triggering the 2X special events, so its not. RegardsOriginally Posted by imnothere1234. You can also do missions and up the payout to $100,000 I used the casino method and was able to get 150 million in one day. Appropriate-Sector14 • 2 yr. Reply . I use the bunker method to get just enough money to buy the stuff that I really want, and I use other functions, like vehicle spawning to make the game easier to play. No idea How to do either recovery or bunker got the mod recently fed up with cayos all day Is there a. it’s 14/15 seconds. Search for: kiddions bunker method You can learn so much using Google. ago. The Kiddions menu is flickering how do I fix that? Press F5 and smash the Num 0 button simultaneously; Why can’t I navigate the menu? Check if numlock is on; Advertisements. For the rp multiplier, it's completely safe. Then sell product and use the slider to set the bunker product value to 2. The problem with casino is that people go nuts and get a ton of money, which R* can see in the stats came from betting, and can be quite suspicious. 9 million and it works every time. So try the nightclub script also, and you can sell some special cargos also 1 crate for 5,5 million. The methods you are choosing to use are getting you banned . 5 million per run but with the release of the criminal enterprise update this was buffed. 5 million I guess. The quickest way to earn money and RP simultaneously via kiddions is to change the RP multiplier and doing the bunker method. go to Bunker/Motorcycle Club business (both use same method) change production time to minimum 1. Kiddions makes this so easy because you can teleport around the island for the scope, and then teleport around for the final. anyone able to pass this hitapp qualification? it seems broken, i dont know what is the meaning of the digit showing in the 'your jugdement and correct jugdement' the digit is so many 8-10 digits. 3rd SELL stock. . 6m for casino) you should be safe, keep the interval between heists. Of course there's a limit on making money, so the safest way is the bunker method (buy a bunker, use trigger production and fast delivery, sit on the pc, sell the merch and then outside put 2. Casino or bunker method. Go to Kiddions r/Kiddions •. Q&A. <Numpad 5> to activate an option, toggle its value or applying any changed setting. If you want to make money safer, make sure you use the bunker method. So if you are in need of money you probably can still use the bunker method. . Go to Kiddions r/Kiddions •. I can't go above 6 crates because at 7 crates I couldn't sell crates individually. Trigger production to have a stock of $14,000. I was told/I read to not go over 12. Yeah i did the bunker method like hhm, i went from 103 million to 420 million in about a day still no ban before the contract update lolNow, I've tried various methods to abuse the system, cashing out $1B daily, used outdated menu in public lobby, bullied and cheated in almost all the possible races and events and even after claiming to have been reported numerous times publicly, I'm still in. Never download kiddions, especially from UC!!! It is very well known to be a RAT which will steal all your passwords, record video from your webcam and sell it to perverts on the internet, then use your name to buy drugs on the deep web, and sell your house!!!Kiddions is undetected and will always theoretically stay that way. The following are some potential fixes: 1) Consider leaving the Numlock on since doing so will make it easier to understand commands and toggle options since most of the mod's commands and toggle options include numbers and special keys. Bunker method Hi everyone. but I saw someone saying here that you just need to put 6x the amount you want and it would work, even when the valued displayed was negative. 132 votes, 72 comments. Cayo heist is probably the safest because you can't do it really quickly anyway. Business, Economics, and Finance. Mr_Tiddlewinks • 1 yr. Spawn vehicles instead of buying them. Stay under the radar, and dont use godmode and teleport with. Additionally, since the mod menu is totally free, you won't have to pay anything to access it. For RP, use the RP multiplier on survival, missions or gang attacks. me in the Kiddions thread. r/Kiddions. I used the bunker method! When you sell your bunker to los santos, you can input an amount in online services-bunker services- and when your selling drag up the sell price to maximum 2 million. The bunker method is supposed to be safer and after being banned once, I'm trying to be as safe as possible, but of course still mod, I'm not crazy. 2K views 1 year ago. All you have to do is set your value of the crates to 5. with modest menu you can force bunker to produce at press of a button and sell the lowest amount of product for 2 millions it's all in bunker options - in menu, bunker options, force produciton - go to computer - sell goods - doesn't matter if lost santos or the county - in menu, bunker options, sell price 2million - and confirm the amountThe Best Money Method in 2021? I'm broke right now and I've been thinking about selling a car for 50m on my main account not sure if this is a good idea or not if you have any other suggestions I'm all ears. ago. 8. 9- Sell the car. r. 9. That was a couple months ago and I haven't been banned. We never know for 100%. 1 view 2 minutes ago GTA 5 ONLINE. Not as quick, but far safer than Casino rigging. Others say that the bunker method is safer though. Bunker Settings > Set Bunker Delivery . Kiddions is still safe. in car) may crash if you enable it, so use it with caution. You still have to make the deliveries, but their kind of fun, and you need game time anyway. It's actually the opposite, it's the method that hardly matters, the amount you make a day and week matters. Go to Kiddions r/Kiddions •. Ok-Resort-7163 • Additional comment actions. its ur choice) lose the rig machine. As soon are you're done cutting his call open up the menu, select Online Services -> Bunker Settings -> Set bunker delivery. Unfortunately, i can't tell you more accurate numbers just. It's just not safe because sooner or later it will be checked regularly by Rockstar. if u place the first bet with 2000 chips and then the rest with 2500 by the time you. Tips?The bunker method is riskier than doing it with slot machines. For example i unlocked all research on the menu, and put a thermal scope to my mk2 sniper. I remember that when I started using kiddions I was watching on youtube about the bunker method and a lot of people saying that it was banned The Bunker method is safe as long as the 2. If you really. MUZ1C4 is offline 2nd April 2022, 05:15 PM #1910: Sevorizzle. Reply reply. 2) BUNKER METHOD. make 1 million is I drive a random car into my garage and as the it's driving inside I spawn the Mr. probably gonna do the bunker method to buy FINALLY some of the new tuners update cars. DENVER. I personally. The Kiddions menu is flickering how do I fix that? Press F5 and smash the Num 0 button simultaneously; Why can’t I navigate the menu? Check if numlock is on; Advertisements. Lol I dont do any time intervals between doing bunker I just loop it until 600 million one day and thats it. If you DO have premium, don't do casino rig at all. The best, most up to date information is on unKnownCheats. Once it arrives in some seconds, trigger production. repeat from step 1. yeah bro the nightclub method is an easy 1 mill every like 5 min. CryptoOpen menu >> Tunables >> RP multiplier (the multiplier depends on the job you are doing) >> do any heist, solo rockstar mission or bunker supply mission Using any other method to gain RP could possibly result in a ban. See more posts like this in r/Kiddions. Cancel supply delivery. As soon as the bunker has stock I sell it. Though honestly I do the bunker method or full your nightclub with cargo and sporting goods and just sell that at a million per run, and you can just teleport most of the time so its. The bunker method is completely safe. i kinda have a method i just use the mission timer and hold down the 6 or 4 ( whichever works ) for 12 seconds and consistently get around 2- 2. The following are some potential fixes: 1) Consider leaving the Numlock on since doing so will make it easier to understand commands and toggle options since most of the mod's commands and toggle options include numbers and special keys. wait for the call and close set value to 1. ago. Rockstars limit is $50,000,000 every 24 hours. ago. Bunker method fix INFO So the bunker method for 45k isnt working i think so just make the sell at 60k and then the modded sell price to 195000 and you would get around 2 mil (to do all this u need a bunker and. Kiddion’s Modest Menu is an external mod menu for GTA 5 and GTA Online. After starting the sell mission, you get into services - bunker delivery and you change the value to, by example, 2. So, the amount of chips you get in the end is around 8 million chips. When you set a bunker sell price and hit 5 on your numberpad it automatically completes the mission and puts the amount into your bank. This is the best free mod menu you can find out there since it’s fully external. 5 mil cause sometimes going over that doesn’t work often. buy supplies. In this video I'll quickly summarize the easiest, fastest and safest ways to use Kiddion's mod menu to boost your GTA ONLINE moneyKIDDION'S MENU: menu or bunker method. Just use bunker to buy stuff that you can't spawn. 98 and just press 5 to get the money after the phone call (for 5 times a day). 1 > Start GTA Online. It has a bit of a learning curve but people have tutorials for the cop and noose outfits. The bunker method still. probably gonna do the bunker method to buy FINALLY some of the new tuners update cars. So what I usually do I let the mod to decide the price by putting any price above 2. I also used to do machine rig but switched to bunker method. Go to the casino,use the spin reward to get 25k chips,do it several times and then change it for money. MC Businesses . Hey, For some time i was able to do the bunker method succesfully but since the last 2 updates i havent been able to - my issue lies with re supplying supplies/triggering production - i remove supply delay, unlock research, hit trigger production/research and my supplies etc dont increase? At first i thought maybe the. I was afk in Cayo Perico looking on youtube for all interest points, came back in game and boom, suspended. You can repeat that for as long as you like and win more than $5M at a time. Casino you can make a bit without getting banned, 10m is probably safe, after that it’s risky, fastest method by far though. - Kiddion. Stand ($10) Cayo method. 1)CASINO METHOD. use nightclub method it is very safe . I've tested casino, kiddions bunker money method, rp loop because i know they're safe. So you could also get a Night Club with all of the locks ups, and all of the basement levels, and then use Kiddions to set that to max, and then sell everything. Spam trigger manufacturing till supply bar is empty. Use Heist Control script (available for 2t1 too but that’s more expensive). Dont have to. You can always try your luck though if you’re willing to go beyond that and risk it. IIRC Heist Control caused bans last summer, too. is bunker method still safe now ? need some money before the new dlc comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment lonelysadfrick •. There is a slight glitch concerning the bunker method. To be safe, I spend as I make. i did get banned and mostly used kiddions but did have phoenix installed and used occasionally. 9. Casino you can make a bit without getting banned, 10m is probably safe, after that it’s risky, fastest method by far though. Get money asyou spend it. 13: 2,965 [Question] how can I detect what is happening on the screen? Bombadil. NEW BUNKER METHOD 7. Making 47millions $ per in-game day in the same sessions may trigger ban. Search for “bunker method kiddions “ either here on this sub or YT. After the update is released, the bunker method should be safe, as long as you don't abuse it. bet one (or you can just leave it to max bet. if u place the first bet with 2000 chips and then the rest with 2500 by the time you. sell crate, edit sale value for 1 crate to $5. Use Forge LSC to save the ones that you like. I mostly use Kiddions, but I’m careful about how quickly I make money. I come from ps3 (missed the transfer window for the…in order to combat this,I do a method that goes like this : 1)Buy supplies. For the bunker method not to be buggy:. Hello! I just launched Rockstar Social Club and it had 576 Mb Update to the Game. 11 changelog and all you do is click the "v8. For the bunker method, I make sure that I’m in a public-solo session by suspending the game for 10-15 secs on the task manager, after that I set the delivery price to approximately 2. Kiddions himself also said that. Bunker Method - do a sale, and use Kiddions to increase the payout and finish the delivery. Once I finish my work with the rigging tomorrow I plan on stopping my use of kiddions all together. If for some reason you didn’t get the free bunker, then maybe. 8 mills. Maybe you should go kosatka instead and then do the heist. Unless your one of the lucky ones, you should slowly acquire cash. 5 million. This is important as the features in kiddions DO NOT affect other players - BUT they do affect YOUR organization (and indirectly any players working for your org. I have a question, when people make money with the kiddions menu some say that they prefer the bunker method over the casino method, why is this because the casino method just seems 10x easier and quicker to do. me kiddions banned kiddions lua scripts I've learned a ton from other posts. At least for a few weeks after the ban was lifted, I would just use the safe Kiddions options. StarLitFuze • 2 yr. 10z ive been having problems. Always download it from the Unknown Cheats page, since there is the official source. I personally use the ceo crates as my go to to make easy money if you don’t mind doing a sell mission. n00bie. 000. 4 mil per sell, with 20 minute breaks in between. ) or RP (Level) modding. 9 million. I'm only making 100 million per second and thats not enough. Although I’ve gotten way more money than that ($150m) in one sitting several times about a month ago and the accounts were not banned. Step 3: Press sell, go to “Set Bunker Delivery” then press the button 19 times. I logged what i had gotten from him, sent a ticket to rockstar explaining what happened, and they gladly reverses my levels, money, and collectibles. How safe is the bunker or casino method ? I know that the casino method is risky from what I’ve heard. Mr Chrome 1. To my knowledge the bunker method is the safest option of getting money using Kiddions and you can't get RP with the rig slot machines. A subreddit based around the Modest Mod Menu (UNOFFICIAL). Bunker Method, head to your bunker, go to your bunker laptop, then go to manage staff and make sure your staff are assigned to manufacturing not research or both, then click on resupply and click on buy supplies, after that get out the interaction screen on the bunker laptop and go into your kiddions mod menu Online Services > Bunker Settings. Use the bunker method and don't generate huge sums of money. MC method from Kiddions(Daily to get around 3-4millions always used different values and switched from cocaine to cash and I always used trigger production to speed up the process to reach the first bar or two bars then sell for 500k-1mil max) 2. 4 mil per day and 5 million with the Casino method. Go to Kiddions r/Kiddions •. GTA 5 Online - Kiddions Bunker Method 50 Million/DAY (SAFEST METHOD)Please hit the like and subscribe button and hit the bell for notifications! For more dai. Trust me bro. You can sell bunker stock at max 2698500. LintStalker is offline 12th March 2021, 01:59 PM. And always do solo. 14th November 2023 08:26 PM by Bombadil. As for the casino method you can win the lottery three times before it says that the feature is temporarily unavailable. When I try doing it again the sell price goes all the way to…Kiddions is the safest free mod menu there is. Go to Kiddions r/Kiddions. If anything becomes detected, Kiddions would post it there. Repeat 3, 4, 5 and 6 until u have around 20 million Casino: 1. r/Kiddions. 😺Saludos Compañeros!! si te a gustado el Video recuerda Apoyarme en el video Dejando tu Like , comentar y compartir si quieres jugar conmigo no pienses mas. So I had read on the Kiddions forum About the casino rig and I had heard 2 people had gotten banned but I kept reading…Use bunker or casino method instead. repeat back to step 1. i got banned from my other two accounts that weren't using kiddion menu. do it about 4 or 5 times then do cayo about 2 or 3 times and again do bunker 4 or 5 and back and forth. - join our discord if you want to get kiddions the download is in my discordNo, Kiddions Modest Menu is not malware. The issues you are talking about are caused by calling the mechanic when you are far away from a road, or in a spot that is unsuitable for the game to spawn a plane or helicopter. So 6 mills should be enough for a day. 479 subscribers. just wanna play. Im currently on 723 million and i downloaded kiddions last week and nothing has happened from the bunker method i did it countless times without waiting at all. You still have to make the deliveries, but their kind of fun, and you need game time anyway. How many times do you do the bunker method? Not much of a question but more of a discussion per se. 1 hour of game time = 1 million should be safe because the grinders can do the cayo heist for that amount. If you do this method you should try to be in a populated lobby with no one at the casino (bonus if there is a modder doing drops in that lobby). 5x right now, the way to make it work is to sell a full bunker ($210k) with "Set Bunker Delivery" @. Now you'll get 1 of 3 things here. Gives me 2 million per day, not much but safe. If you don't have the premium version (with the free CEO office and Bunker), just use Casino rig for a 2 or 3 million to buy those. I think I made close to 300 million within the first 2 weeks of using Kiddions, all from the casino. Overdo it and you risk getting banned. Ok-Resort-7163 • Additional comment actions. Casino rig you can make upto 50millions $ per in-game GTA day but 47millions is safe in a single session (don't use this feature frequently on solo public lobbies because they can be monitored). 5) I then spam click Trigger assigned production, when i do this i can see that the units manufactured number is rising. I use kiddions like 2 or 3 years ago, mostly used the casino and bunker method, i got like 50mill in a single day and spend it in less than a week and never got a problem, btw i did that just in private session, if you wanna mos just for money its very safe. If you think these are too risky, do a cayo perico heist and you should be able to get a few more cars. ago. 49K subscribers Subscribe 73 Share Save 6. iwont do any bunker or anything. r/Kiddions. I used to only use the bunker method but it is not working atm atleast not for me. Pair it with Kiddions so you don’t get idle kicked, and use GTAHaX to level up your LSCM level just 1 number away from the next one. U'll have a few million in a couple of "seconds" basically and from then on I bought bunker and then did bunker missions via Kiddions menu too for more money. It's still fast enough to get you plenty of money. Just don't abuse it. I've heard the bunker method is a great way to make money, and fast. . You can made 2b if you whant with GTAHAxui method and Kiddions with increase daily limit You cand spend all the money you whant. Modest menu has been updated and is available for download. OTGULKAR • 5 mo. bought the. Please read the faq before asking any questions. 0 coins. I only really did the casino slot rig and never the bunker. this way you won't win 2 times in a row so you will not be kicked goodluck! 3 more replies. Entitycuration_crowd. And you can keep it peemanent. So I can tell it's pretty safe. 7- Push sell and search the new sell price in CE (Next Scan) 8- Change all the addresses that are showing up in CE with the quantity of money you want to earn after selling that car. Then I eased off and made the balance using the bunker method during December and January. It seems the limit is about 2.